Migration from NINA Astroberry Project Astroberry Server · FilippoTib · ... · 12 · 390 · 1

FilippoTib 0.00
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Hello everyone!

I'm considering migrating from NINA to Astroberry so that I can keep the pc at home and connect remotely while staying warm to check that everything is ok during the session.

Right now my very basic setup consists of :
 - Star Adventurer (I hope to replace it with a heq5 pro soon).
 - Evostar 72 ED apochromatic refractor.
 - Canon 2000d Astromodified

That said I have two main problems.

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I do not currently have an autoguiding system (as I am raising the money to upgrade to an equatorial mount) but I would still like to do dithering. Only in RA, I know.

As of now I have made a usb-st4 adapter (https://github.com/kevinferrare/arduino-st4) and through NINA I can use its "direct guide" to do dithering on my star-adventurer without going through a guiding camera.

Do any of you do this with ekos/kstars? Do you know if and how it can be done?

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Unlike ASCOM where via CanonSDK I connect to nina with one click, with indi I am having serious problems:
- It won't let me set the 14 bits per pixel, but instead fixes at 8 (Is this a real problem or just a graphic rendering error?).
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I press set, but the 8 does not change (I also tried with a maximum of 6020x4015, as are the files I find in the sd card)

- The moment I take a test shot of, say, 5 seconds actually every now and then the actual shot is less. I would not want this then to happen during a sequence as well. (I have the SLR in manual and BULB)  (Can I go there safely trusting that it is something that happens occasionally only in previews?).

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I realize I am almost at the physical limit of my equipment but I want to make the most of it!

I tried to go through the official ekos/kstars/indi documentation regarding these topics but could not find much. Are there dedicated resources?

Thank you very much indeed and clear skies!

FT
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morefield 11.37
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Maybe I don’t understand Astroberry, but I use NINA and control the PC running NINA from inside my house or trailer.  I use a router to make a local network when in the field.  I connect to the NINA PC on the scope with a laptop from the trailer.  At home the NINA pc is on my home network and I connect via whatever computer is handy in the house. 

Kevin
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GergoB 1.20
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If you can fit a Mele 3Q/C and a portable wireless router in the budget, don't abandon the NINA route. You'll get a lot more help, more features and less trouble. I'm saying this based on my own experience only, but at my local club I've never seen a kstars users actually go home with data. I've seen them troubleshoot wifi drivers until midnight then drive home empty handed with nobody to help them. We have 10 people to assist with NINA or ASI Air any given time but you're on your own with kstars. The Mele only draws 10W and I can operate it remotely from my sleeping bag from my phone. Not sure about a star tracker, but once you have an Equatorial Mount weight won't be an issue to keep it permanently attached to your OTA.
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FilippoTib 0.00
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Kevin Morefield:
Maybe I don’t understand Astroberry, but I use NINA and control the PC running NINA from inside my house or trailer.  I use a router to make a local network when in the field.  I connect to the NINA PC on the scope with a laptop from the trailer.  At home the NINA pc is on my home network and I connect via whatever computer is handy in the house. 

Kevin

Hi, I thank you for your reply. 

The idea was to not leave my current pc outdoors and replace it with a simple raspberry.

I find NINA much more user-friendly although I probably just need to get used to it....

The other guess was to buy an old pc to leave outdoors and connect remotely with my pc just like you do.

I thank you again

CS

FT
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FilippoTib 0.00
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If you can fit a Mele 3Q/C and a portable wireless router in the budget, don't abandon the NINA route. You'll get a lot more help, more features and less trouble. I'm saying this based on my own experience only, but at my local club I've never seen a kstars users actually go home with data. I've seen them troubleshoot wifi drivers until midnight then drive home empty handed with nobody to help them. We have 10 people to assist with NINA or ASI Air any given time but you're on your own with kstars. The Mele only draws 10W and I can operate it remotely from my sleeping bag from my phone. Not sure about a star tracker, but once you have an Equatorial Mount weight won't be an issue to keep it permanently attached to your OTA.

Hi, I thank you for your reply. 

This is the plan B. 

I love NINA but wanted to try a solution that I already have at home....

I have an idea that that is the best solution.

Thank you again,

CS

FT
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si-cho
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Kevin Morefield:
I use NINA and control the PC running NINA from inside my house or trailer


Me too, even you have remote controlled finger (like Tuya Zigbee using wifi) that can turn on a mini PC, as well as an smart switch (many brands also using wifi) that turn on the power of the equipment, so everything can be done remotely using NINA. So the main point is to use a compact mini PC running on windows.
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FilippoTib 0.00
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Claudio Tenreiro:
Kevin Morefield:
I use NINA and control the PC running NINA from inside my house or trailer


Me too, even you have remote controlled finger (like Tuya Zigbee using wifi) that can turn on a mini PC, as well as an smart switch (many brands also using wifi) that turn on the power of the equipment, so everything can be done remotely using NINA. So the main point is to use a compact mini PC running on windows.

Hi, thank you for your response.

Since I had an RPI at home the idea was to try that. But given the responses I guess the solution will be to buy a mini-pc.

CS
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djardi 0.90
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I use this very easy solution:
1) Wifi connected mini PC at the telescope running Windows 11 and NINA. Set up Chrome Remote Desktop for access. This is an excellent, free, built in function in the Chrome browser.
2) Use Chrome Remote Desktop to connect any other (remote) PC to the mini PC running NINA.
3) Control NINA via Chrome Remote Desktop from any convenient (warm, well lit) location. It is just like sitting in front of your telescope using a laptop, but it is far more comfortable.

This is a robust, cheap remote control system that gives you access to the NINA community, which is invaluable. It has ongoing development. Support is always being added for new devices. There is a wide community of knowledgeable users and excellent support.
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WhooptieDo 9.24
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There are plenty of windows capable minipcs that are smaller footprint than ASIairs, and comparable to a rPi.   I run two telescopes in my back yard, I could fit two of the J4125 NUCs I use in my palm, they're tiny.    I run them headless with windows remote desktop enabled, and control them both from inside in the warmth of my office. 

I can't speak from experience with astroberry, but I have no doubt you're going to lose some features leaving Nina and therefore highly advise against it.
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AstroM1 1.20
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I can't help with Astroberry ... but I'm using NINA from the comfort of my home.. I have an old laptop outside and another one inside for my daily use (and work), which do the job well with astro-related software...
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Juno16
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I used to use an older laptop for imaging using NINA and Teamviewer. I now use a mini PC (Mele Overclock 3c) with NINA for image acquisition and guiding outside while operating the session from the comfort of indoors with my desktop pc, ipad, or iphone using Remote Desktop. Works great!

Jim
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ScottBadger 7.61
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I like spending time outside while imaging so I have the same set up as Marc V, regular laptop inside and a basic/reconditioned laptop outside. Remote Desktop between. Cold can be an issue with the outside laptop but I cut the end off an emergency bivy sack and put the laptop inside it. The foil material is supposed to reflect 90% of body (or laptop) heat and it also shields light from the screen. So far, no problems down to -10 to -15 F.

 Cheers,
Scott
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Semper_Iuvenis 2.10
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Consider using a NUC so you can keep using fully supported software and remain warm inside.
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