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As you all get better with acquisition and processing; are you tempted to delete your old images *OR* leave them up as a reminder of your progress ? From a confused newcomer .... |
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| I don't see what there is to gain by deleting older images. We all started from zero experience, no point pretending otherwise. |
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| I must admit I think about it sometimes, but I feel that it shows my AP journey and how I've progressed. I wouldnt delete them but I do have a few images that I would love to see gone lol. |
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I think you leave them. (I have) And then when you get buried by 2 months of clouds, you have some motivation to go try reprocessing them Nobody starts with photos like JWST. All of us have some bloated, oddly colored and poorly cropped image out there. |
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| I leave everything. It's a display of the journey and progress as far as I am concerned. Like Reg said, no point in pretending. |
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My preference as the one who pays AstroBin's server bill, is that you leave everything online! There is value for the entire community in every image, as long as relevant equipment and acquisition data is associated with it. This is why AstroBin keeps your images and everything online forever even if you stop paying the membership permanently (unless you proactively delete stuff, of course). For the value the rest of the community might get from it. Keep everything online and document your journey! |
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Having imaged since the mid 1990s, I have a bit different perspective. 1) If I left all of my images on Astrobin, there would be just too many. 2) Imaging has changed a lot and will continue to - so what was great quality 5 years ago can be just average (or worse) today. 3) Personally, I do not want images which I no longer consider to be at least adequate to be associated with me!  IMHO the exception is any image that has "historical value", such as a great one time event (eclipses, comets, etc.) or something that illustrates the progress the imager or the hobby in general has made. For example I have two images of NGC 891, one recent and the other from 1994. The 1994 image is obviously not at all good by today's standards but has value for comparison. I should also note, in case anyone is unaware, that deleted images are also not really gone, you can always bring them back and post a revision. |
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Bill McLaughlin: Hi Bill, I think it's relative. If your 1995 image still looked great in 2010 but no longer "adequate" today, you should feel very proud and keep it. It would have been a great achievement if an image can be 15 years ahead of time, even if eventually it will be superseded. If a time machine can bring Babe Ruth to today's baseball, I suspect that he can't even make into the starting lineup of most teams. But in his time, he is basically the God teaching people how to play baseball. |
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Good data is good data..Its Simple, use the new tools to revive your old... I do not destroy good data no matter how old it is. I have old negatives from the film days, back to the sixties, storage is not expensive. New tools are making old marginal data usable, hang in there. Images from data, when you create a better one, you decide, sometimes I destroy them, but not the data...Dave |
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Dave Erickson: That is true but my point is that if data is old enough, it was likely taken with poorer equipment (we buy better as time goes on), poorer techniques (we all learn with time) and (maybe) poorer conditions. We also put in far more exposure time that we used to (in the case of my 1994 vs 2023 NGC 891 15 minutes vs almost 20 hours). So older data is probably not going to be as good for the most part. |
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Bill McLaughlin:Dave Erickson: No argument, Agreed, If you don't like your old image here, and there is no historical or community value then why keep it on Astrobin? Images are disposable good data is for the most part not. i am in the process of revisiting old data with the new tools. Some of the data is more than 20 years old. Most with CCD's, very short integrations and very few subs, results are surprising! The new tools are fantastic, the future holds an even better set. Thats my opinion, yours may differ and thats OK. I also have old images from the film days some archived film negative are 60 years old. I am looking forward to scanning and processing with new tools.. |
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For me I keep all my data here on AB, although I’ve only been doing AP here on AB for a couple years I’ve done it for decades (like some here film ap) its interesting at least for me to go back and look at my older images and see my progression not to mention look at my film results which back in the day was quit good and compare them to the “new” way/results. My older CMOS stuff I’ve gone back on and reprocessed with the new tools and techniques to make them as best as I can especially in winter here in Michigan where we get nothing but clouds for months on end. Like @Salvatore Iovene mentioned data can be useful no matter who or what it’s used for even if you don’t see it that way. Thats why I pretty much leave everything I post here on AB. Just my 2 cents worth is all. Dale |
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On the Processing side of things, it's a given that we all start from Zero and get better. But it's not a race either. A good thing too, since some of these guys have a 30 year head start on me. As in golf, I am "playing the course", not trying to catch Tiger Woods. The Acquisition side of things gives me pause though. As I look at some of my old data and see the mistakes and faults in them - it's just not very good data. I have been tempted to re-shoot several of my early efforts from scratch and delete the old data. |
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| I think it is good to leave some old images on here so others just starting out can look at what kind of results they can expect to get on their first year or so of trying to take astro photos. My main laptop went into a state of repair yesterday on which I had photos of about taken of the Orion nebula out in the mountains around here. The laptop had been acting up so I got most them consolidated and put up 2 pics on here just in case and the screen went blank later that day and right now I can't get to the other few minutes on the laptop so I will have see if it's fixable or not and get the rest of the pics on there. |
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| I share various sentiments here for various reasons. Depends on the location. I've only recently started here so I upload as I go. Do I intend to upload old images that I do not believe are as good quality? No. These images are still on my instagram and facebook however as part of my history of getting into this hobby. It is all up to you and your purpose for using these tools. Do you want to store all your images to look back on for yourself? Keep them all. Do you want to curate a catalog of all your best work to share? Then only keep the best. Its really all about what you want to communicate. |
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I'm also on the fence about whether to curate my gallery, or keep all my images. Seeing others with the same dilemma may be an opportunity for a new feature that allows us to archive images we no longer want to showcase in our galleries. Which would essentially recategorize them and remove them from the gallery showcase without removing them from public view. Something in between the Public Area and Staging Area: an Archives Area. I'd actually like to see it as a toggle option for each image: archived or not. The viewer would choose whether or not to see archived images as a toggle option when visiting galleries. |
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I have every astro image I've ever made (including WIP files) since 2007 on my hard drive... Astrobin didn't exist when I started imaging, and I've just returned after a long (> 10 year) break from astrophotography. I don't intend to upload my earlier images from 2007 - 2011, as they are not indicative of my current abilities (I was better a decade ago than I am now), however, I will upload my images to track progress from this 2023 re-entry into the hobby. I see no harm in leaving your old images if they are already there... Seeing that progression in someones images is a solid sign of the work they are putting in, but also, a reminder to others that this is a hobby that really comes alive when you put more time in. The only profiles I ever look at and raise an eyebrow is the ones where it's like "Here's my first astro image ever, taken with a 24" RC, 16803 sensor, Paramount ME, in a dome in chille, remotely controled from my house." and the image is of professional observatory quality, ready for the cover of a magazine... Without some progression images - this comes across very much like "This hobby is easy and I don't get why people struggle so much", which in my view, deters others from the hobby when their first images are nowhere near that level. |
